Discussion in 'Newcastle Knights Discussion' started by rhugh89, Mar 26, 2018.
Yep that's true, but unfortunately we will never know since we were robbed the opportunity.
Trying to put any sort of blame on the refs in this one is seriously clutching at straws. The forwards were never in it. All dragons outside backs were even dragging them along on every hitup.
Problems started in the middle and then out wide where the outside backs are lacking in decision making and numbering up.
Not blaming the loss on the refs, just saying they took away any opportunity for a comeback.
Put it this way, for all the dominance the dragons had if the forward pass just before halftime was not called we go in 2 points behind.
So for a team that dominated us and to only be 2 infront at the break that would have had them worried.
Dodgy calls have been happening long enough in the NRL, just seems like we cop the majority at crucial times constantly.
I just watched the presser and didn't see Brown or Pearce even comment on either forward pass call. I did see them talking about effort and intensity, I did see them talking about error rates and putting ourselves under pressure. I didn't hear a journo asking about those calls either.
Because that isn't the reason we lost. We lost because we were crap. We couldn't hold the ball and complete sets, getting a good kick away and putting pressure on them. For a good 20 minutes in the first half we were horrible and they being a genuine contender this year made us pay. For the rest of the game we competed better but the only reason it wasn't a bigger scoreline was because the Dragons didn't keep the foot on the throat.
Most teams would have beaten us yesterday with what we put out.
Go look at the Tigers last week for an example of getting robbed by the refs.
Ever seen a tennis player implode after 1 bad line call ? Athletes can be temperamental things. Completely different mindset going into the second half scoring last and being only 2 behind.
They also went into cruise control in that second half.
Put it this way if the game was closer that wouldn't of happened either.
All ifs and buts, the actual fact is the dragons did it easy thanks to the forwards not standing up.
I think Yates needs to be starting lock. Him and Griffen controlling the linespeed either side of the ruck and tackling anything that moves. Could help the outside backs if they are making the forwards get up off the line quicker.
All done and dusted now, need to move on to next week.
Forward pack needs a major re-shuffle and they need to get some mongrel. Sick of their soft hit ups and ever so gently tackling opposition.
They need to get the mentality of wanting to hurt everyone they tackle.
look, just give us Taumalolo will ya?
Can give you McLean. An amazing athlete destined for SOO and already played for Australia ( god knows how ).
It's like they start the halves with that intention, you see them hit in twos and threes and drive the player back a few meters. then if their pack doesn't roll over and turns up for the fight ours just doesn't raise the intensity. It's like well that didn't work so lets just run the ball and do our job. The Safs should be taking it as their personal mission to destroy opposition packs. They just don't have that drive in them, as that is the reason they will never amount to anything more than just a couple of big props.
It might be a lot more simple for us than many think. So far this year, it seems to me that every time we get in attacking territory we are a good chance of snagging a try, yesterday this was pretty close to the case & we took ourselves out of the game with errors. 3 errors directly lead to 3 Dragons tries. We take those errors out & the Dragons have to work for their tries, maybe a win for us isn't so far away from possibility then. Possession is the key, we had a possession issue the last couple years where we just constantly went huge periods without the ball, blowing us off the park before the game was done. If we just hang onto the ball we seem to score often.
We have other issues like poor kicks, forwards not running hard, outside backs have no idea what they're doing, but regardless of all that, take those crucial errors out, the Dragons either have to March up the field to get their tries or we don't concede & we're still in the game.
Ese,ese and Daniel to start at prop with Heighington and Lillyman on the bench with Barnett and Jacob and King to Lock , He has that aggressive streak we need ...Also What about Sione centre and Dennis winger with Sam Stone centre and Skd outside him , we keep a big backline and as people say there's not much difference between centre and 2nd rower anymore so Stone should handle it ...Just a thought ....
“Refs fault” shouldn’t even be a line of discussion on this game. We literally conceded three tries from three knock-ons. Also our forwards made zero impact whatsoever with Ese’ese the only one that looked likely to cause any damage and the only one to come close to 100 metres. When you have players like Vaughan and de Belin running hard, gaining those post-contact metres and offloading the ball at will of course it’s going to be a hard day at the office, and having two second rowers filling in as makeshift centres won’t help our cause that much.
Need some aggression in the pack, thought King and Yates would require serious injuries to those in front of them but concede they may be what we need, BUT you bring two in you got to drop two, most likely from bench last game, keep Buhrer for no other reason than he covers hooker unless you bring in Levi , then it's 3 for 3. That means Barnett, JSaf or Heighinton, 2 of those 3 have to go, I would keep Heighinton with the other two to reserves.
As for backs Hughes in for Moga arrange them how you like.
Not so sure about Hughes. There’s a reason he’s not seen First Grade previously. He could end up being another Josh Mantellato.
And mozza for mine Corey Denniss is another. At least Hughes is entitled to a go leading NYC try scorer last year.
And what is fact is we are the same as the Chooks, Storm, Doncs, Sharkies and Manly 2/2, and better than Cowgirls 1/3 and Eels and Raiders 0/4!
And we'll be 3 from 5 after this weekend. The Broncos are very pedestrian.
Yeah I wouldn’t begrudge him a spot. He’s been terrific on the lower grades but there must be a reason he’s chosen others over previously.
You mentioned Denniss. I assume he’s the most likely replacement as he was the starting left centre during the trials when Moga was sidelined.
Brown didn't mention either of those in the presser, just Nick and Sio...
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