Round 11: Newcastle Knights vs Gold Coast Titans

Discussion in 'Newcastle Knights Discussion' started by rhugh89, May 12, 2018.

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What is your prediction for this game ??

Poll closed May 19, 2018.
  1. Knights 13+

    8 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. Knights 1-12

    13 vote(s)
    46.4%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Titans 1-12

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  5. Titans 13+

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Frank McWilliams

    Frank McWilliams Clint Newton

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    It was a good tackle, he was so close could almost have reached out and scored and yes bet if you talked to Ross he would agree. Poor selection of tackle, not as bad as dropped ball or scrum loss, funny how game is 80mins long but game is decided in a few minutes by a few errors.
     
  2. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Heres the bloke who gave it to me for the last 12 months calling out Sione as a hater.

    Hey little man apologies?
     
  3. kurtsux

    kurtsux Tony Townsend

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    Extremely disappointing game today. Being a QLD’er and only being able to see a game a year, I’d really like to go see one where we win. 7 losses in a row now I have witnessed. Never seen them win. Perhaps I’m a bad luck charm and should stay at home?!

    At the stadium today, there was a kid sitting in front of me with a knights jersey on. By the end of the game, he had his brothers Titans hat and flag and was cheering the Titans last two tries and Ash Taylor’s field goal.
     
  4. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Clint Newton

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    The problem with that argument is previously Ponga would be right at the line when he gave the ball to fitz on the charge. No low down tackle at that range would stop him getting over.

    Today, Ponga gave the ball to fitz much further out, and his pass to fitx was from much further away, giving the D more time to react, and a low down tackle was possible, and in that situation encouraged as going high as a little bloke would result in him being carried over. Low down was the only tackle option.

    The problem with the hit em low tackling technique is it will not work at NRL level, the player will simply offload the ball. If that tackling style still worked, and was effective in todays game, then coaches would be getting players to tackle that way.
     
  5. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Clint Newton

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    I think you might have me confused with someone else champ.
     
  6. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Argument? Id say a statment :shrug:following Danknights post.
    Are you even thinking about what your typing here tonight?
     
  7. Frank McWilliams

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    Much as we like to pick on and blame individuals it is the whole squad, players, coaches etc that have to accept the blame, if an individual is to blame for consistent losses then coach etc are to blame for continuing to select them. I have no doubt they are all trying, some achieving better than others some making mistakes that seem unforgivable but a loss shouldn't be a license to further a campaign of hate against any player, rightly or wrongly. Bad enough we lose without being vindictive, I hate loosing too.
     
  8. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    The only guys who can realistically be brought in are Heighington, Buhrer, Yates, Cogger, Stone, Denniss. No one else in the lower grades is ready.
     
  9. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Clint Newton

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    Of course I am, change the word to whatever you wish, the point is still the same. Your insistence that the low down tackle is the way to go, and still has a place in todays game is just wrong.
     
  10. Nickwpearce

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    It shows exactly where we are...

    Ese Ese, Pearce, Ponga and I guess Watson have added some spark to attack...

    But our D is the EXACT same it has been for the last 5 years...

    Sione needs to be replaced, I don't care who and I don't care how...

    Watson has improved.

    Ese looked much better this week.

    The twins need to go, they make too many errors and play the ball to slow and don't have an offload.

    Brown needs to recruit a few more players for 2019

    Sione has been replaced, we need a backup for Moga though and a replacement for Sio.

    So about 3 or 4 forwards and 2 backs...
     
  11. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Ohhhh farrrrk off with your commonsense trolling Frank
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Two biggest games we have had in last 18 months were today and the spoonbowl. Completely screwed the pooch in both.
     
  13. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Is just wrong?

    Good chat kurri.
     
  14. danknights

    danknights Mark Hughes

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    Its tried and tested through decades of elusive runners. It would be VERY effective against structure. Its simply not a 1v1 tackle like you are making out. In fact If you watch all great defenders they all tackle the "old school" way. It's being coached into them the 3 man tackle but under structure it just creates scattered middles and short edges. Especially this knights side who can't defend on a good day let alone week in week out.
     
  15. Kurriboy

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    Lol, I've already gone through why it doesn't work any more, in other threads. It's clear it doesn't work as if it did coaches would coach to it. End of story!
     
  16. nunnsy

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    im a queenslander as well going to be at the game next sunday against the sharks. I was confident we were in for a good chance when i booked flights before the pearce injury. I have only seen newcastle win live once against the titans that was down in newcastle score was 50-22 i think maddog and uate ran riot that day. Hopefully the boys can put in a better peformance for me next weekend than today.
    The most dissapointing thing about today was when we got eight in front i thought we were going to really kick away from them. Then dan dropped the ball and we pretty much didnt get the ball back after that.
     
  17. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    It works brilliantly, its not "used" as getting 3 in the tackle makes for a 5 second play the ball and allows for teams to have 125kg props.

    If the interchange drops and players start getting smaller i bet the low down textbook tackle will be seen a lot more.
    I seen it 30 times today alone.
    One was on Fitzgibbon which started this roundabout mute argument.
     
  18. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Clint Newton

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    Well I guess it's a mute argument as it's on a forum with no sound. :)

    And again, you can use whatever word you like, it is not "used" in todays game as it is not effective. As soon as the player hits the deck you have the refs yelling at the tackler to get off and let em up.

    The D would be caught offside and the team would be giving up massive metres. Today, it is all about slowing the play the ball down, hold them up in the tackle and then, get them to the ground. This gives the D time to turn and get back onside.

    In "Todays" game, the tackle is no longer "effective".

    Arguing over the word effective, or used is semantics.
     
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  19. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Bennet had one thing right a lot of our players are just happy to play first grade each week.
     
  20. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Last 3 games we had to and where expected to win and well....
     

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