Pass mark for next year poll and opinions

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Finishing position

This poll will close on Mar 29, 2018 at 1:46 PM.
  1. 1-4

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  2. 5-8

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  3. 9-12

    75.0%
  4. 13-15

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  5. Spoon

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  1. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Reserve grade should be very good next year - full of young and keen players - no old guys going through the motions.

    Meaney
    Hughes
    Denniss
    Robson
    Chanel
    Jack Johns/Hodko
    Cogger
    Josh King
    Tom Starling
    Amey
    Brodie Jones
    Fitzgibbon
    Saulo/Yates

    Pat Mat/Griffin
    Cam King
    Sam Stone
    Braidie Smith
     
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    Frank McWilliams Jason Hoogerworf

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    Think Brown needs two more years to develop and strengthen this side. Still has a few players left over from previous coaching, signed for 2018, then he will have 2019 to show us what he has.
    Think 6-8 wins plus byes for 18 and expect pushing into top 8 in 19 after attracting a few extra good players and the development of our very young squad.
     
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    Frank McWilliams Jason Hoogerworf

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    I think the squad we now have is it for 2018 assuming we have Griffin from Storm, Heighinton from Sharks would leave only one spot, if my figures are correct leaving one spot for super player picked up from a club with salary cap problem.
    Players such as Amey, Starling and rest of those from under 20s now to old, they will be part of the 6 that could? include Smith and Robson.
     
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    R_A Todd Bates

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    People forget we lost our starting fullback and 5/8 at the start of this year. And an inconsistent 7 didn't help either. Imagine how many teams would have struggled if they had that. Went ok for a while until we lost Buhrer and felt we missed his leadership.

    Obviously we are primed for a better year with better players on the spine training together all pre-season with touch wood no injuries.

    I do wonder if Mullen wasn't suspended whether he would have been worth a few more wins to the team, it would be hard to say he wasn't. But Lamb has had nearly a full year of first grade and now another preseason after surgery. So that won't cut it next season either.

    We are certainly capable of 8-9 wins after seeing how many we could have win this year with an inferior team and I think that should be the benchmark.
     
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  5. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    You throw in Mullen, Rory, Pythian, Sims and not have Buhrer/Barnett missing for long stints, I am confident we get another 3-4 wins this year.

    In hindsight losing Mullo and Sims has been great for our cap.
     
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    JOJO82 Shane Mackley

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    Hopefully we pick up a favourable draw next year seeing we had the 4th toughest draw this year and the storm had the 13th hardest.
     
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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    The draw is entirely dependent on finishing places the previous year. That determines which group the team goes into, and whom they play twice.
     
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    JOJO82 Shane Mackley

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    That doesn’t make sense, if that was the case wouldn’t we have drawn favourably and the storm would have a harder draw to make it a more even competition.

    IMO looks like it is drawn on favourites and who the NRL wants making finals.
     
  9. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    It's drawn so the top 8 sides don't get a draw that sees them play other top 8 sides more than is fair.
    No one cares who the wooden spoon side ends up playing.
     
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    JOJO82 Shane Mackley

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    That was my point, the top teams are favoured.
     
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    Still_Nutty Matt Hilder

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    Like a few earlier posts, I believe it will take 8-10 rounds for the 2018 team to gel and start getting consistency, combinations and confidence in each other...

    On that basis I think we win maybe 3-4 from our first 8-10 (depending on draw, injuries, etc.) but I then expect we should be picking up 7-8 out of our final 16 (i.e. 50% win/loss of our games), which will give us around 11 'wins' for the season (for counting sake, the wins would include the byes) and put us probably just outside the 8 for next year - my expectation is that we should be seeing that as a successful season if we have a reasonable run with minimal key injuries.

    So, for me, finishing anything lower than 11th would be a disappointment...but, all things being equal, I am actually reasonably confident that we can be in a position where we are into round 21 or 22 and still be in contention for a top 8 birth next year
     
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    Simon Templar George Mann

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    I am leaning towards 10-11 , but it was a struggle to identify the teams that would slip below us on the table next year.
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Tigers, Titans, Dogs, Souths, Warriors, Dragons
     
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    krustykraz Darren Forward

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    rabbits, Sharks, imo
     
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    Simon Templar George Mann

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    Hope your right Slots puts us in 10th , fingers crossed.
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Brown shouldn't be extended if they get 6 wins. That's probably the spoon.
     
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    Joshhh OnARampageFuelledByGod

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    Yeah lol, with the new players we've added, it'd be quite disappointing if we can't win a few more games than we did this year. Barely feels like it, but we did manage to win 5 games this year.
     
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    Battler Kade Snowden

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    Exactly. We'll be winning plenty more than 5 games.
     
  19. Frank McWilliams

    Frank McWilliams Jason Hoogerworf

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    We will improve due to improved squad but how high we finish will not only depend on our results but other sides such as Tigers and Titans might also improve. Would love to win 8-10, even be threatening top 8 but mostly let's be well clear of spoon, 2018 will be better and 2019 better again.
     
  20. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    I don't know why people are setting their expectations so low.
    Fair enough in 2017. We under spent our salary cap (for reasons already picked over ad nauseam) by millions.
    In 2018 we have only lost 2 players from our top 17 - Gagai and Pete - while we have signed 2 or 3 million worth of talent.
    We have no excuses for doing badly in 2018. It could only come down to even more terrible luck dogging us, or poor coaching and/or recruitment.
    Everyone says we have a great coach and really good recruitment, so unless you all think we are the unluckiest bunch of mugs on the planet, we should be hitting the ground running in round 1 2018.
     

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