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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    They did the front rowers today. I think we (Lillyman/Dan) finished about mid pack which is fair.

    Graham and Vaughn 1st. Whichever scrubs Broncs trotting out last.
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    After losing to Fiji and Tonga Levi probably wishes he wasn't picked. NZ League is an absolute debacle, he should stay away from that poisonous system. The only thing they could teach him is failure.
     
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    Ese'ese is a better prop than Lillyman. And once Dan comes back from Injury he will be starting with Ese'ese

    He actually is a very classy player. Really smart and technical in how he runs and when. Very alert and does everything at full speed. And a very solid defender.

    There is a reason Mooney and Brown thought he was worth 500k per season. And theres a reason Lillyman was released by the Warriors. Dont get me wrong. Lillyman will be great for us. Even played origin last year. But he isnt what he used to be
     
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    rhugh89 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    PROPS

    1. James Graham and Paul Vaughan
    2. Jesse Bromwich and Nelson Asofa-Solomona
    3. Aaron Woods and David Klemmer
    4. Jordan McLean and Matt Scott
    5. Martin Taupau and Addin Fonua-Blake
    6. Andrew Fifita and Matt Prior
    7. Reagan Campbell-Gillard and James Tamou
    8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Dylan Napa
    9. Junior Paulo and Shannon Boyd
    10. Jarrod Wallace and Leilani Latu
    11. Ben Matulino and Russell Packer
    12. Jacob Lillyman and Daniel Saifiti
    13. Adam Blair and James Gavet
    14. Tim Mannah and Kane Evans
    15. Korbin Sims and Matt Lodge
    16. Thomas and George Burgess

    12) JACOB LILLYMAN AND DANIEL SAIFITI — NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

    What are you going to get from Jacob Lillyman in 2018? The same thing you got from Jacob Lillyman in 2017 — solid metres in the middle of the field, heaps of tackles, nothing spectacular but plenty of that solid stuff that every teams needs, the kind of stuff that wins games but not headlines.

    Entering his 15th NRL season, Lillyman averaged 115 metres and 13.3 runs per game in 2017 — amazingly, both marks are career highs. During their years in the NRL’s underworld Newcastle have been forced to rely on unproven youngsters, overmatched bench players or veterans with an eye on retirement when it comes to middle forwards.

    Not only is Lillyman the exact type of player the club needs to give their pack a little extra toughness, he’s a perfect mentor for the young forwards coming through the ranks.

    One of those forwards is Daniel Saifiti, who is another of the prizes Newcastle have to show for their run of wooden spoons.

    The Fijian international started 20 of his 23 games last year and emerged as one of the more promising middle forwards in the league, averaging 110 metres from 12.1 runs in 47 minutes of action.

    Like the Knights themselves, Saifiti really hit his stride late in the year, running for over 125 metres in nine of his last 10 games. He’s still young, but there are high expectations around the 21-year old and he has the ability to meet them.


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    krustykraz Brett Shore

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    Just remember Lillyman averaged more meters per game last year than any of our other front rowers and he was in a team that offered nothing in attack.
     
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    I know i know, I was championing that stat when we first signed him. One thing to recognize is minutes played. Ese'ese did just as much but in less time. And looked better doing it

    Lillyman wont let us down but he doesnt have anywhere near the impact he used to. He is our 3rd choice prop imo

    And by the end of the season we should be top 5 (starting props)
     
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    rhugh89 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    LOCKS

    1. Jason Taumololo
    2. Paul Gallen
    3. Josh McGuire
    4. Jake Trbojevic
    5. Jack De Belin
    6. Simon Mannering
    7. Trent Merrin
    8. Sio Suia Taukeiaho
    9. Dale Finucane
    10. Nathan Brown
    11. Elijah Taylor
    12. Mitch Barnett
    13. Sia Soliola
    14. Jai Arrow
    15. Cameron Murray
    16. Adam Elliott

    12) MITCH BARNETT — NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

    There is a top footballer somewhere in Mitch Barnett. The fiery 23-year old was a shrewd purchase for the Knights midway through 2016 after picking up the NSW Cup Player of the Year award the season before.

    In his first full season in first grade, Barnett showed moments of real brilliance while also struggling at times as the rough edges in his game bubbled to the surface.

    Mobile, rangy and skilful, Barnett can be one of the best locks in the league once he gets his game fully together.

    The final hurdle for Barnett, aside from securing a starting spot in what has rapidly become a rather deep Knights forward pack, is cutting the errors and penalties.

    As a consequence of his ball-playing abilities, sloppy errors can creep into his game and his fiery nature all too often manifests in to needless penalties — he conceded 20 in 22 games last season, the fourth most in the league. Cut these mishaps, and Barnett can be a star.


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    Fair enough for Barnett. Nathan Brown is much better than 10th though.
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    And Mannering way too high
     
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    Watcher Danny Wicks

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    Hi guys from the Warriors. With your signings I think you guys are being generally under rated. Pearce is a good buy, as is Lillyman, not flash but you get what it says on the tin week in and out. Hopefully you guys will have a good season, I have always liked the Knights.

    As for us, favourites for the Spoon and deservedly so, however, things are happening over here that are long overdue. On field recruitment has been solid but we think off field is more important with Alex Corvo and Brian Smith coming on board as Trainer and Director of Football respectively. Too much mediocrity has been accepted by the Club and Smith is here to sort it out. Kearney's results as an NRL Coach have been dire, but as Kiwi's Coach he over achieved. Having Smith there hopefully will release Kearney to just Coach. Useful replacement as well if Kearney doesn't achieve.

    Corvo has done well at the Storm and Broncos, he is working the a...s off the squad, the word is they hated it to start with but they are seeing the benefits themselves with a 'no shortcut' hard work regime. There is absolutely no excuse for past results with the squad we can put out there. To be honest our expectations are not high but we expect improvement. We will not accept players like Luke arriving looking like an advert for NZ butter. (To be fair he is looking trim this year). To get it right on field you must get it right off field.
     
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    Wobbles Rodney Howe

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    For whatever reason the Warriors haven't had the success that has been long expected, especially considering the quality players in the club.
    Hopefully Brian Smith doesn't have too much say in your recruitment strategy though...

    Good luck for 2018!
     
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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    I believe Watcher will be the first to agree. Lack of fitness causing falling away last 20 minutes, and not much enthusiasm.
     
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    Watcher Danny Wicks

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    Fully agree, we can cop a loss if the team is giving it all the full 80. However, if our guys stay in it they will win a lot more games.
     
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    Watcher Danny Wicks

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    Same to you guys. The new CEO is working closely with Smith claiming clearly marked boundaries. There are clearly concerns, but as he was available and willing it is hard to turn down the experience of about 600 NRL games and several clubs. They had the All Blacks Captain talking to the squad as well.
     
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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Alas we know just where you are coming from brother.
     
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    SECOND ROWERS

    1. Sam Burgess and Angus Chrichton
    2. Wade Graham and Luke Lewis
    3. Matt Gillett and Alex Glenn
    4. Josh Papalii and Elliott Whitehead
    5. Ethan Lowe and Gavin Cooper
    6. Boyd Cordner and Mitchell Aubusson / Ryan Matterson
    7. Ryan Hoffman and Felise Kaufusi
    8. Isaah Yeo and Corey Harawira-Naera
    9. Tyson Frizzell and Luciano Leilua
    10. Tohu Harris and Leivaha Pulu
    11. Manu Ma'u and Tepai Moeroa
    12. Josh Jackson and Raymond Faitala-Mariner
    13. Jamie Buhrer and Aidan Guerra
    14. Ryan James and Kevin Proctor
    15. Curtis Sironen and Joel Thompson
    16. Chris McQueen and Chris Lawrence

    13) JAMIE BUHRER AND AIDAN GUERRA — NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

    Newcastle’s renewed forward depth means Buhrer may start at hooker again, playing the opening 20 minutes at dummy half before moving back to the left edge.

    However, if Nathan Brown opts to start Danny Levi one would imagine Burher would start alongside Aidan Guerra.

    Injuries have dogged Buhrer over the past few seasons but the former Sea Eagle still has excellent late footwork and defends well.

    He’s an experienced hand in a Knights team that has sorely needed such leadership.

    Guerra lost his Origin spot after the disaster in Game I but quietly put together his best season in several years.

    He’s a smart pick-up for the Knights, giving the club more experience and a built-in combination with Mitchell Pearce.

    Even if he doesn’t regain the form he showed from 2013 to 2015 he can still be a valuable part of a developing Knights forward pack.


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    FULLBACKS

    1. Billy Slater
    2. Tom Trbojevic
    3. James Tedesco
    4. Darius Boyd
    5. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
    6. Clint Gutherson / Bevan French
    7. Lachlan Coote
    8. Valentine Holmes
    9. Dylan Edwards
    10. Kalyn Ponga
    11. Alex Johnston
    12. Matt Dufty
    13. Tuimoala Lolohea
    14. Jack Wighton
    15. Michael Gordon
    16. Moses Mbye

    10. KALYN PONGA

    The buzz surrounding this kid well and truly surpasses the seven NRL games he currently has to his name.

    He’s on big money at the Knights, and along with Mitchell Pearce, is now carrying the hopes of rugby league mad city.

    If the stats he accumulated in his very short career are anything to by Ponga is set to blitz his first full season of top-class footy.

    In the seven games he played, he made 33 tackle busts, nine linebreaks, four linebreak assists and scored three tries.


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    Can’t argue with that list by the end of the season I think Ponga will be at 8 and the two above him drop down a spot. Wightons Star has diminished a lot over the last few years at one point he was being talked up as an origin player, the move to fullback has done him no favours.
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    That top 4 is a big step up from the rest.
     
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    Ponga will be there seasons end lol
     
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