Discussion in 'Newcastle Knights Discussion' started by corunetes, Nov 8, 2017.
Buhrer for 20 mins than going to the backrow for 60m's is such a better use of the bench.
Alas Danny will not be an 80 minute player. For mine the Kiwis looked very flat and worried all match.
Levi has looked very good for the Kiwis, every time he's run so far, the Kiwis get on the front foot. Member you've been on a Levi tirade ever since he made those 2 errors in quick succession in a game late in the season. You're probably right in that Levi will never be an 80 minute player, I'd have hoped he'd start showing signs of it after 50 games, although still many years in the game left to show improvement.
Indeed Joshhh, indeed.
Apart from being so slight I get concerned over his back problems alas. Quality eighty minute hookers are few and far between and when Bedsy first spotted him i hoped he would make it.
There are plenty of good hookers in the NRL who don't play 80 mins, Granville, Koroisau, Damien Cook. Little hookers seem to get burnt out too fast with defence so you need them in bursts to play their best attacking footy
The dummy half sets the shape of the side when you chop and change it makes the team look disjointed and with limited interchange it isn't the best use of resources better to hide them like we do half backs for a period of defence to give them a rest.
Levi can either go 80 minutes and not do much, or go 40 or 50 minutes and scoot out of dummy half every chance he gets.
He modelled his game on Luke and in NYC he was a match winner by playing hard for 40 minutes and often running 100 metres out of dummy half and scoring a push over try or 2 nearly every game.
Danny Buderus taught him to choose his time to run and save his energy to play longer minutes, and he has been fair at that, and getting longer minutes over time.
NZ want him to be a direct replacement for Luke, and have him going as hard as he can, and replacing him when he is spent.
We can use him either way. We have Buhrer and Griffin who can both do 20 minutes of hooker and another spell in the forwards - so we can bring Levi off the bench and let him go hard - or we can ask him to save his energy and go for 80, and go for a bit of a run if he spots a chance - like Bedsy taught him.
He is only 21, so it isn't impossible that he will build up a lot more stamina in the future. Most hookers seem to take on a bigger workload as they get into their middle to late 20s.
Aren't they reducing interchange again?
I think it's a trend that started under unlimited interchange of swapping hookers but I don't think it works I think your dummy half job it is to manage your team so your not burning one player out too much to get a consistent performance over 80 minutes and that includes themselves. Brownie was good at it as a player and choosing who got the ball and when so his team could play longer minutes I think he can impart that wisdom.
NZ just named Levi to start and Kodi Nikorima as the bench hooker.
Looks like they'll ask him to play longer minutes this week, and use Nikorima for impact.
94m against Australia off the bench seems pretty good. did he play well? I didnt getvtonwatch the game.
He held his own against the best props in the world. He'll never be an exciting player, but he seems a reliable workhorse type, and we need that I think.
If the Saifiti's, Lillyman & Ese just hold their own and run hard, Levi, Lamb, Watson and Ponga can create the magic.
Just my opinion but I think that Daniel and Jacob after last year and another pre season will do more than hold they're own ...
Yeah agree especially with Dan he was one of the best running around the last 8 games or so he was averaging over 150m a game barring the game he got injured, Jake runs the ball just as hard but doesn't seem to get through the amount of work Dan does hopefully he can get his workrate up.
Dan would have been in any NRL teams top 17 last year, guy had a huge year.
Only reason he doesn't get more credit is that he plays for us.
I honestly think he will be pushing for SOO selection in the next 2 years the way he is going.
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If he keeps on running 150m each game next year he should be in calculations.
Guys a plow horse.
Speaking of Herman, do we know if he got stung by the match review for his dodgy hit this weekend? It looked pretty ordinary, good thing the swinging arm didn't hit flush or he'd be missing a few games for us I'd think.
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I like the bloke even more after reading the article.
yeah - great article and nice to see the calibre of both player and player culture that is getting brought to the club...as an aside, we are also very lucky in Newie to have a journo, the calibre of Barry Toohey, to bring these insights to the public
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