2018 State of Origin Series: Game 1

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What is your prediction for this game ??

Poll closed Jun 6, 2018.
  1. NSW 13+

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  2. NSW 1-12

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    50.0%
  3. QLD 1-12

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    25.0%
  4. QLD 13+

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  1. rhugh89

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    WEDNESDAY 6TH JUNE, 2018 @ 8:00PM
    MCG, MELBOURNE


    OFFICIALS


    REFEREES: GERARD SUTTON AND ASHLEY KLEIN
    SIDELINE OFFICIALS: NICK BEASHELL AND BRETT SUTTOR
    VIDEO REFEREES: STEVE CHIDDY AND BEN GALEA


    CURTAIN RAISER

    UNDER 18S: NSW VS QLD @ 5:15PM

    NSW TEAM

    1. JAMES TEDESCO
    2. TOM TRBOJEVIC
    3. LATRELL MITCHELL
    4. JAMES ROBERTS
    5. JOSH ADDO-CARR
    6. JAMES MALONEY
    7. NATHAN CLEARY
    8. DAVID KLEMMER
    9. DAMIEN COOK
    10. REAGAN CAMPBELL-GILLARD
    11. BOYD CORDNER (C)
    12. TYSON FRIZELL
    13. JACK DE BELIN

    14. PAUL VAUGHAN
    15. JAKE TRBOJEVIC
    16. ANGUS CRICHTON
    17. TYRONE PEACHEY

    18. TARIQ SIMS
    19. NICK COTRIC

    QLD TEAM

    1. BILLY SLATER
    2. VALENTINE HOLMES
    3. GREG INGLIS (C)
    4. WILL CHAMBERS
    5. DANE GAGAI
    6. CAMERON MUNSTER
    7. BEN HUNT
    8. DYLAN NAPA
    9. ANDREW MCCULLOUGH
    10. JARROD WALLACE
    11. GAVIN COOPER
    12. FELISE KAUFUSI
    13. JOSH MCGUIRE

    14. MICHAEL MORGAN
    15. JOSH PAPALII
    16. COEN HESS
    17. JAI ARROW


    HEAD TO HEAD

    GAMES - 111
    NSW - 49
    QLD - 60
    DRAWN - 2

    SERIES WINS

    NSW (13) - 1985, 1986, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2014

    QLD (23) - 1980*, 1981*, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1995, 1998, 1999**, 2001, 2002**, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017


    * 1980 AND 1981 WERE ONE OFF GAMES AND NOT A SERIES
    ** SERIES DRAWN, QLD RETAINED THE SHIELD AS DEFENDING CHAMPIONS




     
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    In Melbourne who gives a toss?
     
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    I give a toss I won't be go to Melbourne , its either NSW or Qld for me why do they play outside these states loses the crowed especially at the MCG if that is where it is - been there before and you are miles from the action.

    Also will be concerned if Ponga goes for this period, Guerra needs to be contention to if they are serious , best defender by a mile, SOO experience and hasn't put a foot wrong for us so far, I am concerned.
     
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    Because Simon it gives the rednecks two home game advantages each and every year. Kevin Walters is on record as saying Melbourne is as good as a home game to them.
     
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    Alot of reports floating around that Maloney isn't guaranteed a spot due to his defence

    He mas missed way more tackles than any other NRL Player this year and it's not the first time he mas been on or near the top of the list

    I could only go back to 2013 on NRL.com but judging by the number of missed tackles he has consistently been top 5 or just outside every year except his debut season of 2009

    2018 Most Missed Tackles

    James Maloney - 75
    Robbie Rochow - 51
    Luke Brooks - 47
    Mitchell Moses - 47
    Peta Hiku - 45

    2017 Most Missed Tackles

    Api Koroisau - 123
    James Maloney - 121
    Ethan Lowe - 104
    Dylan Walker - 97
    Matt Gillett - 92

    2016 Most Missed Tackles

    James Maloney - 103
    Ben Hunt - 99
    Luke Brooks - 98
    Mitchell Moses - 92
    Johnathon Thurston - 87

    2015 Most Missed Tackles

    James Maloney - 109
    Mitchell Moses - 95
    Luke Brooks - 75
    Lachlan Burr - 74
    Ben Hunt - 73

    2014 Most Missed Tackles

    Luke Brooks - 101
    Chris Sandow - 90
    James Maloney - 89
    Tyrone Roberts - 83
    Robbie Rochow - 75

    2013 Most Missed Tackles

    Albert Kelly - 102
    James Maloney - 83
    Glenn Stewart - 71
    Robbie Rochow - 71
    Matt Ballin - 70

    James Maloney Career Missed Tackles

    2009 - 6 (1.5 per game)
    2010 - 121 (5.1 per game)
    2011 - 127 (4.7 per game)
    2012 - 125 (5.2 per game)
    2013 - 83 (3.3 per game)
    2014 - 87 (3.2 per game)
    2015 - 109 (4.1 per game)
    2016 - 103 (4.1 per game)
    2017 - 121 (6.1 per game)
    2018 - 75 (6.8 per game)
     
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    Rhugh89 - great work on those stats , you must have too much free time .
    What these stats don’t tell is Jimmy turns sides he plays in from nuffties to winners , that is the only stat they need to look at- he is a proven winner.

    If he is missing that many you can garentee the defenders either side are ready in cover, as is the case with a lot of names on those lists cause the majority are the smallest of their teams and mainly play makers who are always targeted.
     
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    Worth noting that 2018 no Knights player in top 5 missed tackles despite all the get rid of Sione because he misses so much, maybe he ain't half bad
     
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    Frank, I am sure this is just another anomaly associated with trying to interpreted stats - if you shoot out of the line, leave holes in the defence and not lay a hand on any one , it is technically not a missed tackle, so doesn’t count.
     
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    Alas Frank his defence ain't half good either.

    Similar story last week when claim was Ross Dawg did not miss any tackles. That is if one does not count not competing for the high ball, watching player run past to score and running up out of the line tackling no one á lá the Uate method of defence.

    I still believe he is a winger and needs to be schooled in staying on his man and let the inside defenders worry about the inside attackers.
     
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    Team is announced next Monday I think, Here is my team barring injury or suspension this week

    I have based this on Stats, Form and my personal opinion

    All stats are from NRL.com

    1. James Tedesco (5 Origins)

    Is finding his feet but his form has improved. 8 Line Breaks, 66 Tackle Breaks (3rd in the NRL) and is averaging 179.3m a game. I do have a concern over his handling, He has made 20 errors which is the second most in the NRL but there are more positives than negatives with Tedesco imo.

    2. Nick Cotric (Debut)

    This was a toss up between Cotric and Tom Trbojevic and it was tough. In a struggling Raiders Team Cotric has managed 5 tries, 102m a game, 73 Tackle Breaks (2nd in the NRL) and 9 Line Breaks (3rd in the NRL). Only 19 but I reckon he will handle the occasion.

    3. James Roberts (Debut)

    I was considering Roberts for a while and after his battle with Latrell I had seen enough. Despite Mitchell getting the better of him in the first half his head didn't drop and he came back with a vengeance in the second half. 64 tries in 114 games and 5 tries in 11 games this year. He has 49 Tackle Breaks, 6 Line Breaks and 5 Try Assists in 2018. Defensively he has been solid as well with a tackle efficiency of 80.2%.

    4. Latrell Mitchell (Debut)

    The 20 year old from Taree (Better known as Bedsy Town) is an exciting long term prospect for NSW. 50 Tackle Breaks, 5 Line Breaks and 5 Tries so far in 2018. Only averages 86.3m a game but is a handful every time he touches the ball. Defensively sound in 2018 making 94 tackles and missing just 13.

    5. Josh Addo-Carr (Debut)

    The Fox is a must for NSW. One of the quickest if not the quickest players going around the 22 year old from Blacktown has a meteoric rise in the last season and a half and continues to memorize fans. Averages 124m a game and leads the NRL in Line Breaks with 12. He is also the leading try scorer in the NRL (Along with David Fusitu'a) with 12 tries in 2018.

    6. James Maloney (9 Origins)

    Despite the defensive worries Maloney offers experience which in a young Blues Team will be invaluable. I also think having him there will help Nathan Cleary. Maloney has been great for the Panthers in 2018 and is the main reason they find themselves in 2nd place after 11 rounds. He sits 3rd for kick metres and has racked up 7 try assists and 5 line break assists so far. He has also forced 8 dropouts this year. Averages 87.7m a game which means he he isn't afraid to take the line on either. His Goal Kicking in 2018 is at 84.4% too which is handy.

    7. Nathan Cleary (Debut)

    Can this 20 year old handle the pressure of being NSW Halfback ?? That is the million dollar question but for me he shows a maturity beyond his years and will rise to the occasion. In 2017 Nathan took the NRL by storm. His season numbers were right up there with the best: 26 Games, 11 Tries, 321 kick metres per game, 19 forced dropouts, 10 Try Assists and 78m a game. Looked good in his first game back after injury and in his 4 games this year he has already racked up 4 try assists and 2 Line Break Assists. No worries defensivley either with a tackle efficiency of 91.5%. In fact he has made 52 tackles this year and only missed 3. Has the ability to lead a new era for NSW.

    8. Paul Vaughan (Debut)

    This bloke should've played Origin in 2017. Last year he averaged 148.7m a game and racked up 54 tackle breaks. This year he is averaging 134.43m a game and has racked up 20 Tackle Breaks so far. Defensively strong in 2017 with 689 tackles and just 21 missed tackles. In 2018 he has backed that up up with 278 tackles and just 17 missed with a tackle efficiency of 89.8%. Will bend and break the line too, This is demonstrated by his 589.6 post contact metres this year which backs up his 1,332 post contact metres of 2017.

    9. Damian Cook (Debut)

    Form hooker of the comp and is a must for NSW. His ability to bust a defence wide open is uncanny. So far in 2018 he has 7 Line Breaks, 41 Tackle Breaks and averages 108.4m a game. Has a good passing game and can get our pack on the front foot. Defensively he has been outstanding making 466 tackles (Most in the NRL) and missing just 28. Tackle efficiency rating is at 90.3%. Leads the comp in dummy half runs but the key to Cook is he knows when to run and when to pass. Has collected 3 try assists, 3 line break assists and scored a few tries as well. Huge reason why the Bunnies have surprised most and sit in the top 4 this year.

    10. David Klemmer (9 Origins)

    Despite the Bulldogs woes Klemmer has once again racked up huge numbers. He is averaging 173.8m a game and tackling at 91.8%. He also leads the NRL for post contact metres (808) and is 3rd for metres gained with 1,912m. In a side that lacks experience the man the call Klem is a must. At 24 years old he has already played 15 tests and 9 origins, I see no reason why his rep career shouldn't continue in 2018.

    11. Boyd Cordner (9 Origins)

    Obviously the skipper will be there regardless. Averaging 119.9m a game and has a tackle efficiency of 86.4% in 2018.

    12. Tyson Frizell (5 Origins)

    Love watching this guy go about his work. Tremendous footwork and mobility for a big man. Averaging 111m a game in 2018 and had 445 post contact metres. Has also racked up 4 tries in 11 games and has a tackle effeincy of 90.4%. Has played 5 origins so far and will add to that this year.

    13. Jake Trbojevic (3 Origins)

    Incumbent player and has a long rep career in front of him. The 24 year old has impressed this year in an inconsistent Manly team. He is averaging 135.3m a game which is slightly up on his 134.2m a game in 2017 and has made 4 line breaks and scored 4 tries. His defensive numbers are superb making 447 tackles (3rd most in the NRL) and missing just 11 at a tackle efficiency of 94.1% which backs up his defence of 2017 in which he made 894 tackles and missed just 28 at a tackle efficiency rating of 96.9%. Has given away 18 penalties this year but didn't give any away in Origin last year.

    14. Tyrone Peachey (Debut)

    Out and out utility that has the ability to break a game open for NSW. He averages 109.2m a game and has racked up 4 tries, 3 try assists, 3 line breaks and 34 tackle breaks. Tackle effiency of 81.4% which is an improvement on his 74.4% in 2017. Can slot in at dummy half to give Cook a break, Has the Panthers connection with Cleary and Maloney.

    15. Jack De Belin (Debut)

    Like his team-mate Paul Vaughan he should have been there in 2017. A tireless worker is ready for Origin. Averaging 120.3m a game but that's nothing new for Jack. He averaged 146.6m a game in 2017, 116.8m a game in 2016 and 122.9m a game in 2015. He has made 34 tackle breaks, 4 Line breaks and scored a fe wtries this year. Defensively strong with a tackle efficiency of 90.4% which like his run metres is nothing new. In 2017 he had a tackle efficiency of 96.5%, In 2016 he had a tackle efficiency of 98.2%, In 2015 he had a tackle efficiency of 96.6%, In 2014 he had a tackle efficiency of 97.6%. In fact Jack may be the best defender in the NRL, He has made 4,343 tackles since debuting and has missed 117. That's a career tackle efficiency of 97.3%.

    16. Reagan Campbell-Gillard (Debut)

    The man with the moe. Averaging 98.1m a game but only averages around 55 minutes a game too. With RCG it's quality over quantity

    17. Angus Crichton (Debut)

    Crichton gets the nod over Tariq in my team. Averaging 125.8m a game in 2018 and funnily enough had his best game against the table topping Dragons in which he made 196m (50m was post contact), 3 offloads, 2 Line Breaks, 6 Tackle Breaks, Scored a try, Made 41 tackles and missed just 2. Tackle efficiency of 87.3% and runs a good line. At 22 he will only get better


    * Alot of speculation over Fifita possibly playing in games 1 and 3. If he is available he would be in my team. I would probably go with 4 forwards on the bench

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/st...m/news-story/ebadea09975a378bb4c111e4099a8893

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-21/andrew-fifita-makes-risky-state-of-origin-pick/9781310

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/05/21/andrew-fifita-not-out-of-blues-state-of-origin-contention-yet/

    https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/05/20/21/54/fifita-says-he-ll-play-origin-for-free

     
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    roughie I thought Ado-Carr was lined for the rednecks?
     
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    Origin gets Victorian black-eye



    news.com.au
    May 26, 2018 10:48pm




    THE NRL is bracing for a State of Origin black eye at the series opener in Melbourne.

    Despite the representative retirements of Johnathan Thurston, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith making the 2018 series completely up for grabs — Melbourne fans are reportedly set to give Origin Game 1 the snub.

    The Daily Telegraph reports the NRL is resigned to an embarrassing crowd of just 50,000 turning up at the cavernous MCG when the Maroons and Blues face off on June 6.

    The report claims ticket sales for Origin I are yet to break past 20,000 — just 11 days before the big game.

    Sales are expected to pick up in the final 10 days with promotions, free give-aways and membership interest expected to push sales past 40,000.

    The 100,000 MCG would still appear mostly empty if less than 50,000 fail to turn up.

    Pictures of empty sections at the MCG during the biggest game of the year would be a black eye for the NRL’s commitment to taking games outside of New South Wales and Queensland.

    The looming Melbourne disaster comes after 91,513 turned up to watch Origin at the MCG in 2015.

    The Daily Telegraph reports Melbourne supporters have turned their back on Origin at the MCH because of a rise in ticket prices, a promise of future Origin matches in Melbourne in 2021 and 2025 and ongoing fan anxiety around the NRL’s referee crackdown which has drastically escalated the rate of penalties in the game.

    The 2018 series will also be played without Melbourne favourites Cooper Cronk, Cameron Smith and Johnathan Thurston.

    Only Billy Slater remains of Queensland’s big veteran stars alongside Greg Inglis.


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    NSW officially announce their squad tonight but according to the Daily Telegraph it's been leaked

    1. James Tedesco (Sydney Roosters)
    2. Josh Addo-Carr (Melbourne Storm)
    3. James Roberts (Brisbane Broncos)
    4. Latrell Mitchell (Sydney Roosters)
    5. Tom Trbojevic (Manly Sea Eagles)
    6. James Maloney (Penrith Panthers)
    7. Nathan Cleary (Penrith Panthers)
    8. Reagan Campbell-Gillard (Penrith Panthers)
    9. Damien Cook (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    10. David Klemmer (Canterbury Bulldogs)
    11. Boyd Cordner (Sydney Roosters)
    12. Tyson Frizell (St George-Illawarra Dragons)
    13. Jack de Belin (St George-Illawarra Dragons)

    14. Tyrone Peachey (Penrith Panthers)
    15. Jake Trbojevic (Manly Sea Eagles)
    16. Paul Vaughan (St George-Illawarra Dragons)
    17. Angus Crichton (South Sydney Rabbitohs)


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    Apparently this will be the QLD Team, They officially announce their squad this morning

    1. Billy Slater
    2. Valentine Holmes
    3. Greg Inglis (c)
    4. Will Chambers
    5. Dane Gagai
    6. Cameron Munster
    7. Ben Hunt
    8. Jarrod Wallace
    9. Andrew McCullough
    10. Dylan Napa
    11. Gavin Cooper
    12. Felise Kaufusi
    13. Josh McGuire

    14. Michael Morgan
    15. Josh Papalii
    16. Jai Arrow
    17. Coen Hess
    18. Joe Ofahengaue


    http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...r/news-story/56d1368d78934bd8414097759b66bac0
     
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    Very happy with that team if correct. I sent my friend the squad I’d name and I had Graham for Crichton and De Belin and Trbojevic swapped so I wasn’t too far off.
     
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    QUEENSLAND MAROONS TEAM

    Game I, 2018

    Melbourne Cricket Ground
    Wednesday, June 6

    1. Billy SLATER - Melbourne Storm
    2. Valentine HOLMES - Cronulla Sharks
    3. Greg INGLIS (c) - South Sydney Rabbitohs
    4. Will CHAMBERS - Melbourne Storm
    5. Dane GAGAI - South Sydney Rabbitohs
    6. Cameron MUNSTER - Melbourne Storm
    7. Ben HUNT - St George Illawarra Dragons
    8. Dylan NAPA - Sydney Roosters
    9. Andrew McCULLOUGH - Brisbane Broncos
    10. Jarrod WALLACE - Gold Coast Titans
    11. Gavin COOPER - North Queensland Cowboys
    12. Felise KAUFUSI - Melbourne Storm
    13. Josh McGUIRE - Brisbane Broncos

    14. Michael MORGAN - North Queensland Cowboys
    15. Josh PAPALII - Canberra Raiders
    16. Coen HESS - North Queensland Cowboys
    17. Jai ARROW - Gold Coast Titans


    https://www.qrl.com.au/news/20182/05/28/queensland-maroons-team-and-new-captain-announced/
     
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    Not overly impressed by that team. Although will probably still beat us.
     
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    One of the best teams on paper we’ve had in years. Very inexperienced but can’t fault the talent all across the park. All the debutants have thoroughly deserved their spots. If this team can’t win a series I don’t know what team can.
     
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