2018 NRL salary cap

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  1. member 2299

    member 2299 Andrew 'Joey' Johns

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    Five hmmmmm!

    Donks, Storm, Raiders, Chooks and Dogs for starters?
     
  2. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Russell Wyer

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    Well Brown had a good plan. All it will take is the clubs to block it, delay it etc until the start of training next year and then claim the NRL can't enforce a salary cap that they didn't get passed before the start of the season.
     
  3. Chief Longhorn

    Chief Longhorn Trent Hodkinson

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    And so it begins......
     
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    member 2299 Andrew 'Joey' Johns

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    Maybe Longprong, just maybe, they could start their own super league thingemmy?
     
  5. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Matthew Gidley

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    Honestly the NRL head office is a joke... the past decade has seen the game fall apart.

    Highest tv rights deal ever and there broke?? How many people are paid in the office 250k a yr? Probably 300 to many.

    The RLPA and clubs wanted a fiar share of the profits and im sure 9.2 mil isnt fair.

    Rip down the place and start again.

    We have a strong backing now so money isnt a huge problem for us anymore.
     
  6. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Russell Wyer

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    I'm sure the NRL will work out whoever is the most over the cap and announce a concession for the year of that amount.

    From what I read the clubs are around $300k over, why not just let them be over and fine them as the current mechanism allows.
     
  7. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Matthew Gidley

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    Bulldogs are way more then 300k over.
    They mite be 300k over atm but thats without Foran 1mil and Woods 850k which the NRL atm wont register as they are already over the cap.
    Plus they have issues with Klemmers TPA which is now on the cap which ive heard is 350k of tpa
     
  8. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Russell Wyer

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    Then I guess we have a good chance of signing James Graham then. :)
     
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    How the Canterbury Bulldogs threw their salary cap into disarray with reckless spending


    Michael Carayannis, Exclusive, The Sunday Telegraph
    August 13, 2017 6:00am



    IT is the multimillion-dollar spending spree which has left Canterbury’s salary cap in disarray with their failure to heed multiple warnings by the NRL leaving the game’s governing body unsympathetic to their plight.

    It could also cost the club star recruits Kieran Foran and Aaron Woods, whose contracts are yet to be fully ratified by the NRL.

    The Sunday Telegraph can reveal the Bulldogs have been in constant discussions with the NRL about strategies surrounding their salary cap dilemma with fears they could have overspent by up to $1 million.

    But the NRL has little sympathy for the Bulldogs who have blatantly disregarded a stack of warnings to curb their spending spree.

    Canterbury’s poor on-field performances have not helped with the players they were hoping to move on now becoming less attractive.

    Rival clubs are also aware of the Bulldogs overspending, so they hope they can capitalise by securing a bargain buy.

    On March 30 and again on April 20, the NRL gave all club CEOs salary cap guidance of $9.14 million for 2018 — this despite suggestions the cap could be as high as $10 million at the end of last year.

    Since these warning the Bulldogs have added almost $2 million worth of talent after signing Woods (approximately $700,000), Foran ($900,000) and Fa’amanu Brown ($150,000).

    The trio were announced in May. Negotiations with Foran and Woods were well advanced when the NRL shocked clubs with their original salary cap offer of $8.3 million.

    That same month the Bulldogs also offered contract extensions to William Hopoate ($500,000), Marcelo Montoya ($100,000), Kerrod Holland ($150,000), Reimis Smith ($100,000) before re-signing Danny Fualalo ($100,000) and Adam Elliott ($150,000) in June.

    It is understood some of these players are on back-ended contracts.

    The Bulldogs declined to comment on Saturday.

    Woods and Foran have only been provisionally registered by the NRL’s salary cap auditors after the Bulldogs provided the NRL with a plan to be under the proposed salary cap by round one.

    There is no guarantee the contracts of Woods or Foran will be fully registered by the NRL — meaning they may not be free to turn out for their new club next year.

    The NRL required a salary cap plan for the duo to be provisionally registered, which included off-loading a host of players, but poor form coupled with rivals knowing Canterbury must shed players has made the task of moving players on more difficult.

    While the Raiders are another club which has overshot the NRL’s proposed salary cap their only new arrival for 2018 is Warriors rookie Erin Clark, who joined the club midway through this season.

    The squeeze on the Bulldogs cap comes with the likes of Greg Eastwood and James Graham receiving big pay rises next year because of back ended deals.

    While the Bulldogs have added internationals Woods and Foran, they have shed just one contracted player — prop Sam Kasiano who will join Melbourne.

    But even then it is understood the Bulldogs will contribute some of Kasiano’s Storm wage.

    Favourite son Josh Reynolds will depart the club for the Tigers but he was not contracted beyond this season while hooker Michael Lichaa won’t be retained.

    On June 15 there was a meeting of club chief executive’s and chair people where the Bulldogs proposed introducing a “soft” cap for next year while the prospect of “grandfathering” payments has also been suggested.

    This could allow the Bulldogs — for example — to be $400,000 over the salary cap for next year but play under a reduced salary cap of $100,000 per year for the following four seasons.

    The NRL are unlikely to show any leniency to those clubs which are not compliant by the start of round one.

    Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib is manoeuvring behind the scenes to gather support to ensure the NRL’s salary cap is raised to at least $9.5 million.

    He will host a lunch for select rival club bosses on Monday to try and gain support.

    Clubs do have plenty of power. All that is needed is five disgruntled clubs to stick together and they could block any salary cap agreement struck between the NRL and the Rugby League Players Association which has the potential to send the game into further chaos.

    But at this stage it is unlikely Dib would “have the numbers” to force the stalemate.

    It could also cost the club star recruits Kieran Foran and Aaron Woods, whose contracts are yet to be fully ratified by the NRL.


    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/4f4503f482d3af00d241ce43abf128d2
     
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    $1m salary cap crisis forces Canterbury Bulldogs to put entire NRL squad up for sale


    JAMES PHELPS & MATT LOGUE, The Sunday Telegraph
    August 13, 2017 6:00am



    THE ENTIRE Bulldogs NRL squad has been put on the open market with a $1 million salary cap crisis forcing the club to put a “For Sale’’ sign on every contracted player.

    The Sunday Telegraph has learned Bulldogs chairman Ray Dibb and Chief Executive Officer Raylene Castle have been personally calling rivals clubs and player agents in a desperate bid to off-load contracted players.

    Josh Morris and Brett Morris, Aiden Tolman, James Graham, Moses Mbye are not the only players to have been told that they are free to break their Bulldogs deals with the club to consider releasing any player with a contract.

    “They are all on the market,’’ said a leading player manager.

    “It is not just the guys that have been mentioned. No one has been told they won’t be at the club next year but they are all aware that they are free to explore options elsewhere.’’

    Dogs officials have even been shopping around Mbye without informing him or his manager or getting their consent.

    The Brisbane-born halfback is on a four-year, $3 million dollar deal at Canterbury, which doesn’t expire until the end of the 2020 season has been offered to multiple rival clubs.

    It’s understood Mbye’s manager Simon Mammino has approached Bulldogs officials about shopping around his client and they denied it.

    Already $1 million dollars over next year’s proposed salary cap figure of $9.2 million, the Bulldogs will be forced to consider releasing any player capable of attracting a fine saving offer from a rival club.

    That means even the likes of Josh Jackson and David Klemmer could end up at another club next year.

    And the uncertainty over the future of the entire club has contributed to the Bulldogs remarkable second half of the season collapse.

    “It is not that we are not trying to win,’’ a Bulldogs player said.

    “The boys are all desperate to win and putting in everything. But that uncertainty does affect us. No one has been told that we are not wanted but we read the stories and hear about it. And that makes you try harder if anything and that can make things go wrong.’’

    The Bulldogs have had little interest from rival clubs with few showing interest in the unprecedented August shopping list.

    It is understood out of favour forward Eastwood has held discussion with the Panthers about a switch next year in a move that would see the Bulldogs payout most of his $700,000 a year deal.

    Under fire coach Des Hasler denied the contract speculation had contributed to the team’s horror run before his side were thumped by South Sydney.

    “The players are very professional and they understand what it’s about,’’ Hasler said.

    “I don’t think (the uncertainty) creates any paranoia.’’

    The Bulldogs two big name recruits for season 2018 are not expected to be affected by the salary cap situation.

    Both Aaron Woods and Kieran Foran expect to be at Belmore at the end of the year.


    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/a49f3b3ab70865cc49c5dfd86b5a34b4
     
  11. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Matthew Gidley

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    Seems i was pretty much bang on with my previous post.
    Mbye on 750k, and dogs way more then 300k over and thats without Foran and Woods being registered by the nrl.

    Now should we be smart and go after Tolman and Klemmer for a combined 1mil offer or chase Blair or Graham for 700k+

    I know what deal id be trying to push for.
     
  12. nunnsy

    nunnsy James Goulding

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    Klemmer and tolman for me
     
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    dalpretzel Greg Smith

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    If we could get Klemmer and Josh Jackson our pack would be one of the best next year. Having Jackson as our lock would work wonders for our defense !!!!

    Hope browns on the phone saying we can take them and solve your cap issues
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    jackson is the most over rated player in the comp I reckon.

    yes please to klemmer, but surely he is literally the last player they let go?
     
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    member 2299 Andrew 'Joey' Johns

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    Jackson has no hands, only flippers which explains his dropped balls. Arf Arf!!
     
  16. Kurriboy

    Kurriboy Russell Wyer

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    Maybe the last player they would want to let go, but if they are having a fire sale and all players are on the chopping block, they are obviously desperate. They thought they could make their signings even though warned by the NRL, and bully the NRL in to ratifying them.

    Now they are desperate. The Knights should be ringing them every day with our solution to their terrible, unfortunate dilemma.
     
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    Kurriboy Russell Wyer

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    Just saw on the news the dogs have apparently garnered the support they needed, and the group of 5 are looking to secure a salary cap of 9.6 million.

    They are taking their proposal to the NRL apparently.
     
  18. MisterLevy

    MisterLevy Cory Denniss

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    Surely they would still be over the cap?
     
  19. 88Knight4life

    88Knight4life Matthew Gidley

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    Yes they are, that extra 400k really only covers the other 4 clubs and helps the dogs a bit.
    Its better then nothing for the dogs, and great for the other clubs.

    Meanwhile up in Newcastle the knights have not broken any cap laws and are well below that quota and are now getting shafted by the big end of town.

    Lucky that old town of newy does its best work when the deck is stacked against them.
     
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    Battler Rod Whitaker

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    Who are the five? One could guess.

    NRL should grow a set and reset the paradigm.
     

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