2017 NYC Holden Cup

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  1. Frank McWilliams

    Frank McWilliams Jason Hoogerworf

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    It was A very poor effort when having it all to play for, a few good efforts, King, McIntyre, Gibbs were ok but we were never in the game even before the score line blow out. Will have to improve in all areas to be a force.
     
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    Will be interesting to see how many of the current squad are able to play again next year. & what boys will be pushed up from this years SG Ball
     
  3. Frank McWilliams

    Frank McWilliams Jason Hoogerworf

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    I think that 6-7 will,be to old and rest will be eligible is a young squad, but we will lose some to other clubs.
     
  4. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    stats are up
    Matt Cooper ran 185 metres - 90 of those would be from the near length of the field individual try.
    Kurtis Dark topped the tackle count with 36 and ran 125 metres
    Cory Denniss had 17 runs for 160 metres
    The most telling stat is missed tackles - King 8 missed, Mcintyre 7 missed and most of the forwards with 4 or 5 or more. No commitment in defence is the story of the day.
     
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    LADDER AFTER ROUND 24

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  6. beau

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    Wow straight out of the top 8


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    Now depending on other results and needing to win both remaining games, big loss, thrashing by a lower side
     
  8. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Only about half the guys had a serious go yesterday.
    They are gone for the year.
    Sad thing is, we've probably never had so many rep players who could play under 20s - we have NSW reps Cooper, Meaney, Denniss, McIntyre I think, Dark, Starling, Birch, Stone, Croker and Australian and NSW reps like Lamb, Jones, Cogger, Butterfield, Saulo and Huth - that's 15 guys who have played for NSW or Australia at under 16, 18s, 20s level or Australian schoolboys, and we have also had Brendan O'Hagan and Josh Ralph play some games earlier in the year - that's 16 NSW reps and a Qld rep.
     
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    The bulk of those players had lots of games in u/20's for an overall poor result, with rep games are they overdone? Or is it poor attitude mixed with coaching. I know some players played little or no u/20, Lamb, Cogger, Meaney, Stone but rest of squad played plenty, no excuses for those last big losses.
     
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    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    A lot of them are young. Croker, Huth and Birch all 17/18 - Jones, O'Hagan, Cooper, McIntyre, Dark, Saulo and Starling all played in our national title winning under 16s side in 2014, so 18/19 now.
    The guys turning 20 this year who are rep standard - Lamb, Cogger, Stone, Butterfield, Meaney and Denniss would have about 10 games between the lot of them in NYC this year.
     
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    Friday August 25 – Round 25 NYC

    Newcastle Knights v Canberra Raiders
    NYC Kick off: 3.45pm
    Venue: GIO Stadium

    1. Matt Cooper
    2. Mitch Andrews
    3. Cory Denniss
    4. Heath Gibbs
    5. Kainoa Gudgeon
    6. Jack Johns
    7. Hayden Loughrey
    8. Eddy Tuilotolava
    9. Nash Birch
    10. Matt Croker
    11. Brodie Jones
    12. Kurtis Dark
    13. Zac Hosking (c)

    14. Luke Huth
    15. Henry Penn
    16. Sam McIntyre
    17. Cameron King

    18. Viko Puliuvea
    19. Dylan Clark
    20. Jayden Butterfield
    21. Kyle Smith
    22. Pasami Saulo
    23. Ofa Manuofetoa


    http://www.newcastleknights.com.au/news/2017/08/22/nyc_and_isp_round_25.html
     
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    McIntyre and King, two of the years better performers dropped to bench for last weeks effort, not surprised they both had a bad day out, most unlike them.
     
  13. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Few guys getting dropped to the bench for poor defence last week - King and McIntyre.
    Dark gets rewarded for being just about our best last week. Second row should be his only position.
     
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    NYC match preview: Round 25


    Wed 23rd August, 03:01PM


    Newcastle Knights v Canberra Raiders
    Date: Friday August 25
    Venue: GIO Stadium
    Kick-off: 3.45pm

    Squads

    Knights

    1. Matt Cooper, 2. Mitch Andrews, 3. Cory Denniss, 4. Heath Gibbs, 5. Kainoa Gudgeon, 6. Jack Johns, 7. Hayden Loughrey, 8. Eddy Tuilotolava, 9. Nash Birch, 10. Matt Croker, 11. Brodie Jones, 12. Kurtis Dark, 13. Zac Hosking. Interchange: 14. Luke Huth, 15. Henry Penn, 16. Sam McIntyre, 17. Cameron King. 18. Viko Puliuvea, 19. Dylan Clark, 20. Jayden Butterfield, 21. Kyle Smith, 22. Pasami Saulo, 23. Ofa Manufetoa.

    Raiders

    1.Paul Roache, 2. Harry Van Dartel, 3. Sebastian Kris, 4. Mikaele Ravalawa, 5. Andre Niko, 6. Derek Hay, 7. Erin Clark, 8. Emre Guler, 9. Lachlan Cooper, 10. Fabien Paletua-Kiri, 11. Daniel Kerr, 12. Jacob Field, 13. Kye Madden. Interchange. 14. Sato Ketia-Opo, 15. Hudson Young, 16. Zac Masters, 17. Jarred Tuite, 18. William Samuel, 19. Mitchell Smith, 20. Kalani Going, 21. Matthew Scott, 22. Timoci Vatubuli, 23. Jayden Carroll.

    Match Analysis

    NYC Newcastle Knights coach Todd Lowrie said he will be rewarding some of his players for good performances when they clash with the Canberra Raiders on Friday.

    “Certainly, this time of year we need guys who are in form and playing really well,” he said.

    Eddy Tuilotolava and Kurtis Dark get their starts in the forward pack.

    “Kurtis (Dark) in particular was by far our far best player on the weekend so he deserves his spot,” explained Lowrie.

    Forward Brodie Jones is back in the side after being promoted to Reserve Grade last week.

    “I'm pretty sure he will be back depending on a few things happening above, but he’ll hopefully come back with a bit of confidence after his first game in Reserve Grade,” Lowrie commented.

    The Under 20s coach admits the next two games are critical to keep their finals hopes alive.

    “We need to win at least one of them but winning two of them would be nice,” Lowrie stated.

    “Going to Canberra this weekend, on the back of what happened the last two weeks, hopefully we’ll be well and truly motivated to keep our season alive.

    “A trip away to Canberra might be what we need to bring the team together and bring out the best in everybody.

    “If we win both of our games, then I think we’ll be okay but if we only win one, we will have to worry about that mathematics of it all.”

    Lowrie admits the Raiders usually like to use their aggression.

    “Historically against us in the Under 20s, they have tried to bash us around the middle of the park,” he explained.

    “They try to win the ruck and are always very aggressive.

    “With their last home game of the year, I don’t expect anything different and I don’t think they’re in semi-finals contention so they’ll be certain to come out and bash and barge a little bit.

    “Our middles and forwards need to be up for the challenge.”

    Where it will be won

    With a heavy loss last week, the NYC coach has re-shuffled his forward pack and focused on defensive efforts come Friday.

    “We'll see if we can get some guys there that can beat that physical challenge because that is where Canberra is really strong,” explained Lowrie.

    “Our last three or four losses have been pretty heavy losses so defence is certainly an area that needs to be addressed and something the guys are not proud of at all.”

    NYC take on the Raiders at GIO Stadium on Friday, kick-off is at 3.45pm.


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    NYC late mail: Round 25


    Fri 25th August, 03:21PM


    Coach Todd Lowrie has finalised his 17 to take on the Canberra Raiders in a high-stakes match.

    There are no changes to the starting side, but Sam McIntrye has been ruled out from the bench, allowing Viko Puliuvea to come into the 17.

    Kick off is 3.45pm.

    TEAM

    1. Matt Cooper, 2. Mitch Andrews, 3. Cory Denniss, 4. Heath Gibbs, 5. Kainoa Gudgeon, 6. Jack Johns, 7. Hayden Loughrey, 8. Eddy Tuilotolava, 9. Nash Birch, 10. Matt Croker, 11. Brodie Jones, 12. Kurtis Dark, 13. Zac Hosking. Interchange: 14. Luke Huth, 15. Henry Penn, 17. Cameron King. 18. Viko Puliuvea.


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  16. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    looks a good side. If they have a go they should win.
     
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    Awful start Billy


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  18. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    21 - 20 win apparently
     
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    Knights - 21 (T: Gibbs 2, Andrews, Gudgeon, G: Dark 2/4, FG: Johns)
    Raiders - 20
     
  20. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    We needed that last minute field goal from Johns. A draw wasn,t enough to get us back into finals contention.
     

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