Danny Levi requests a release

I can only think of 3 that I’ve been sad to lose during Browm’s tenure. Tapine, Meaney and Starling (if he’s definitely gone?)
 
The Club is doing well to secure a lot of our younger players early. In the past where we might have let good prospects go, we now have people in charge who can identify good young players and are working to hang on to them.
 
slotmachine said:
Clydesdale, Edwards, Pat, Chanel and Mamo are all killing it.

Tapine is going great at raiders, but that's about it.
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Tapine wasn’t moved on by Brown though. He left for a bigger contract. I’m sure Brown would of loved to keep him at a reasonable price for a relative rookie at the time.
 
Brown has been through more players than any coach we have ever had, and he is our least successful coach.
If he makes a grandfinal this year I'll cheerfully call him a genius.
I don't think i'll be doing that.
 
If he gets klemmer he'll go bloody close, won't matter if charlie chaplin's the hooker
 
Billy said:
Brown has been through more players than any coach we have ever had, and he is our least successful coach.
If he makes a grandfinal this year I'll cheerfully call him a genius.
I don't think i'll be doing that.
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He’s also put together the strongest side we’ve had in at least a decade. It’s about time that we had someone in charge that places a higher priority on players being quality than a local junior.
 
I'd argue more than a decade. You'd have to go back to 2004 before you find a potentially stronger Knights side imo.
 
All means nothing until we put results on the board. Apart from 2016/17, we hype our side up most years. Though pretty confident we'll do well this year, we'll win plenty of games if Pearce & Ponga on the field, running off the back of Klemmer.
 
Joshhh said:
All means nothing until we put results on the board. Apart from 2016/17, we hype our side up most years. Though pretty confident we'll do well this year, we'll win plenty of games if Pearce & Ponga on the field, running off the back of Klemmer.
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Can we have Mullen at 5/8, ponga at 1 and Watson at 14?
 
I see where Billy is coming from without wishing to get into an ability arguement. Some of those young players, Lamb, Cogger, Meaney etc were brought through a period of poor teams, if retained for example this coming season with the side we will likely have and only filling in when injuries occur they would have developed much more than leaving a season early. Look at our likely reserves, Lamb, Cogger, Meaney etc would have fitted in well and backed up the firsts, they could easily fit into 1, 6 & 7 in reserves and developed into better players in 2019/20 with the addition of the experienced players around them. They may not have developed as much but they would be good in reserves, better than what we might have and give those playing u/20's the confidence to see an opportunity to be promoted. Players in lower divisions have to have others above them showing it can be done.
 
Frank McWilliams said:
I see where Billy is coming from without wishing to get into an ability arguement. Some of those young players, Lamb, Cogger, Meaney etc were brought through a period of poor teams, if retained for example this coming season with the side we will likely have and only filling in when injuries occur they would have developed much more than leaving a season early. Look at our likely reserves, Lamb, Cogger, Meaney etc would have fitted in well and backed up the firsts, they could easily fit into 1, 6 & 7 in reserves and developed into better players in 2019/20 with the addition of the experienced players around them. They may not have developed as much but they would be good in reserves, better than what we might have and give those playing u/20's the confidence to see an opportunity to be promoted. Players in lower divisions have to have others above them showing it can be done.
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The three you mentioned didn’t want to sit in reserves though. That’s why all of them left. I appreciate the reason though - there were opportunities for more first grade offered to them and they took it. While your point makes sense, it’s not what those particular players wanted.
 
Billy said:
Which is exactly the point.
Why sign 10 or so guys every year who have already failed at other clubs just to keep young players out.

You say we have had 4 or 5 good signings.
I support that 1000%.
All the others - the churn of nearly 60 players under Brown - is just nonsense.
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The key is to balance junior development without the entitlement.
 
Billy said:
Spending the full salary cap is a completely different question to sacking all the good 20 year olds and signing 15 pretty ordinary 25 year olds because you can't improve young players.
For every Pearce and Ponga I can name 10 Lillyman, Bhana, Naden, Hazard, Allwood, Heighington, etc etc type signings - for no good reason at all.
I've always said you spend money on top level players you can't match - but you don't sign up half the rejects in the NRL.
Sides made up of mercenaries don't win titles.
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Trouble is we didn't have money to spend on top tier players at the time we didn't have top tier money so we bought bottom tier players until Brown could fix the mess we were in .
 
Billy said:
Brown has been through more players than any coach we have ever had, and he is our least successful coach.
If he makes a grandfinal this year I'll cheerfully call him a genius.
I don't think i'll be doing that.
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Fair dinkum Billy you really hate Brown hey Brown has got rid of all those **** players because they were mostly crap bought by the last few coaches ...You just cant give him any kind of praise mate hey .
 
Browny came into this gig, saying it was going to be about 5 years before we get on our feet. I think he's on track, an doing a great job.
 
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